Augustine on Foreknowledge and Predestination
For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. Romans 8:29 ESV
Often we hear that when Paul says God "foreknew" those whom He predestined, it meant that God simply knew that in the future some would choose to follow Christ and then predestined them accordingly.
Aurelius Augustine of Hippo (354-430 A.D.), in his On the Gift of Perseverance, saw things quite differently. The extensive quote below comes from chapter 47 of his treatise:
"These gifts, therefore, of God, which are given to the elect who are called according to God’s purpose, among which gifts is both the beginning of belief and perseverance in the faith to the termination of this life, as I have proved by such a concurrent testimony of reasons and authorities,--these gifts of God, I say, if there is no such predestination as I am maintaining, are not foreknown by God. But they are foreknown. This, therefore, is the predestination which I maintain. [XVIII.] Consequently sometimes the same predestination is signified also under the name of foreknowledge; as says the apostle, “God has not rejected His people whom He foreknew.” [Rom. xi. 2] Here, when he says, “He foreknew,” the sense is not rightly understood except as “He predestinated,” as is shown by the context of the passage itself.
For he was speaking of the remnant of the Jews which were saved, while the rest perished. For above he had said that the prophet had declared to Israel, “All day long I have stretched forth my hands to an unbelieving and a gainsaying people.” [Rom. x. 21 et seq.] And as if it were answered, What, then, has become of the promises of God to Israel? he added in continuation, “I say, then, has God cast away His people? God forbid! for I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.” Then he added the words which I am now treating: “God hath not cast away His people whom He foreknew.”
And in order to show that the remnant had been left by God’s grace, not by any merits of their works, he went on to add, “Know ye not what the Scripture saith in Elias, in what way he maketh intercession with God against Israel?” [Rom. xi. 4 et seq.] and the rest. “But what,” says he, “saith the answer of God unto him? `I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee before Baal.’” [Rom. xi. 5] For He says not, “There are left to me,” or “They have reserved themselves to me,” but, “I have reserved to myself.” “Even so, then, at this present time also there is made a remnant by the election of grace. And if of grace, then it is no more by works; otherwise grace is no more grace.”
And connecting this with what I have above quoted, “What then?” [Rom. xi. 7] and in answer to this inquiry, he says, “Israel hath not obtained that which he was seeking for, but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded.” Therefore, in the election, and in this remnant which were made so by the election of grace, he wished to be understood the people which God did not reject, because He foreknew them. This is that election by which He elected those, whom He willed, in Christ before the foundation of the world, that they should be holy and without spot in His sight, in love, predestinating them unto the adoption of sons.
No one, therefore, who understands these things is permitted to doubt that, when the apostle says, “God hath not cast away His people whom He foreknew,” He intended to signify predestination. For He foreknew the remnant which He should make so according to the election of grace. That is, therefore, He predestinated them; for without doubt He foreknew if He predestinated; but to have predestinated is to have foreknown that which He should do."
Soli Deo Gloria!
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8 comments:
Uhhh... I reckon this means I'm officially breaking the blog-fast.
"breaking the blog-fast."
Hey, you went five days. Not bad, not bad at all.
(Sorry I missed your call. The message was funny, though.)
Rhett!! I understand though...although blogfasts for 5 days are not as difficult as food fasts for 5 days, yikes!
You are looking for your answers about Predestination in the WRONG PLACE!!! The definitive verse on Predestination can be found in Calvin's own 1599 Geneva Study Bible in Revelation 22:19: [Link: http://bible.crosswalk.com/Commentaries/GenevaStudyBible/gen.cgi?book=re&chapter=022 ].
This verse, which the Calvinists have edited to become the Shortest Verse in the Bible at Zero Words, two words less than "Jesus Wept.", says volumes by its absence. This verse has not totally vanished, as the Calvinist have replaced it with a misleading footnote:
The supplication of John (which is the third part of the confirmation) joined with a curse of abhorrence, to preserve the truth of this book entire and uncorrupted in two verses.
It would be intersting to compare this verse in the 1599 Geneva Bible to other Bibles, like the NIV (after all, Calvin said "Compare Scripture with Scripture"):
And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.
[Link: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%2022:19;&version=31;]
Looks like the Early Calvinists, in an effort to EDIT the Bible to their liking and in conformance with John Calvin's Institutes, have stumbled into a frightful curse. Don't you do the same.
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With all due respect, your claim is simply silly...
I have a copy of the 1599 Geneva in my hands right now and all of Revelation 22:19 is there. The website is in error.
I suggest that you get an actual copy of the 1599 before you make such outrageous claims.
RK
When Calvin said compare scripture with scripture, I don't believe he had in mind comparing translations...rather I think he was intending the rather obvious hermeneutical principle...compare the vague and difficult parts of scripture by the simpler more didactic parts of scripture.
Bydlo,
For the record:
The Crosswalk "1599 Geneva" is meant to be a Commentary. It ONLY lists the verses where the 1599 has a FOOTNOTE. This is why Rev 22:19 (and a number of other verses) is not listed. Again, as an owner of 2 COPIES of the 1599 Geneva Bible, I assure you all the verses are in there... (If you had a copy, you would know this too.)
Trying to use the Crosswalk version of the 1599 Geneva Bible to back claims about some Calvinist conspiracy to edit the Bible is totally wrong and bordering on slander.
Now that you have been informed of this, any further claims (such as you have made above) will be a violation of the 9th Commandment because you are no longer ignorant about the facts.
I pray that since you have been enlightened in this matter, that you will not persist in bearing false witness against Calvinists any longer, for Rev 21:8 says that "all liars shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death."
Btw, This blog is moderated and it will do you no good to continue posting misinformed comments and demands for my apology. I have no reason to apologize, I have only tried to correct your error on this matter. I'm actually doing you a favor.
Have a nice day.
RK
Bydlo,
I will look into your claims, however, you must understand that you ruined your credibility with me on the 1599 Geneva Bible issue.
Here's some advice:
Next time you decide to take on a Calvinist, I suggest you leave the Crosswalk.com 1599 commentary out of it!! ;)
This has been very entertaining!
Thanks!
RK
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